Curse

entropy · Nov 12, 2005, 04:06 AM // 04:06

omg no more nerfs!!!

_necroangel_ · Nov 12, 2005, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by Overnite

A minion massing necro is a much better asset to a farming party than a nuking elementalist. After a few combats he can amass an army of >20 minions that will kill any monster in seconds. Such a horde of fiends is not only overpowered but also looks incredibly lame, much like a spirit spam before the nerf. So for the sake of balance and aesthetics, nerf those things to hell !

I suggest a limitation to the number of minions a necro can have or a nerf to the skill used to keep them alive, whatever it's called.

You see, this is why things get nerfed in the first place because of noobs like you who like to complain...So, my suggestion to you is shuddup and GET OVER IT!

ange1 · Nov 12, 2005, 04:16 AM // 04:16

lol it's fine as it is
the goal of the update is to nerf soloing
if u can make a build that incorporates minions/fiends/horrors soloing, then they'd probably nerf it =D

seraphite86 · Nov 12, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20

If you want to nerf a minion master necromancer, you might as well nerf everyone else. Like make a monk's Orison of Healing heal only 1-5 health? Yeah, good idea.

jimmy_logic · Nov 12, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

I would imagine solo Minion Master would be quite difficult... :P

Sharpe_116 · Nov 12, 2005, 04:30 AM // 04:30

NO MORE NERFING, put the game back to the way it was long ago, Back when we could solo, back when Eles mattered, back when an ecto was 10k, not 8, 9, 16k! MAKE IT ALL NORMAL AGAIN. if a-net continues nerfing, allot of their fans will be gone. Because almost everyone in the game made money from farming (thats gone) and almost everyone has an ele (also destroyed). WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO US, STOP THE NERFING, PUT THE OVERSIZED NERF BAT DOWN, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

2_fingers · Nov 12, 2005, 04:32 AM // 04:32

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Originally Posted by Overnite

A minion massing necro is a much better asset to a farming party than a nuking elementalist. After a few combats he can amass an army of >20 minions that will kill any monster in seconds. Such a horde of fiends is not only overpowered but also looks incredibly lame, much like a spirit spam before the nerf. So for the sake of balance and aesthetics, nerf those things to hell !

I suggest a limitation to the number of minions a necro can have or a nerf to the skill used to keep them alive, whatever it's called.

Ok.. first things first, this is a PvE question suggestion. In the same light, since we are suggesting about nerfing.

Lets nerf the warrior armour. He's takes too little damage. OVERPOWERED! WOOOT

Lets nerf the monk. A monk can stop damage and heal everyone else! Overpowered!

Lets Nerf the ranger! He can interupt and deal tons of dmage to everyone! IMBA!

Lets nerf GW! We should not have more than 10 Life! too strong characters!

Keeping minions isn't easy. We've got to monitor their health, use sac skills etc. Besides, minions are NOT overpowered as in order to farm with them, u need a Warrior to prevent the mobs from going after the necro and u need a monk to heal the necro while he sacrifices in mid fight.

As for pvp. it has been mentioned before, bring EoE and bb minions

nicky nightmare · Nov 12, 2005, 04:32 AM // 04:32

indeed it is..... because you have to focus on raising and keeping your minions(general term there) alive you dont have a whole lot of room for damage causing spells. granted if you went blood/death you could do more damage but youd leave some other skills behind.

Eldrig · Nov 12, 2005, 05:33 AM // 05:33

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Originally Posted by 2_fingers

Ok.. first things first, this is a PvE question suggestion. In the same light, since we are suggesting about nerfing.

Lets nerf the warrior armour. He's takes too little damage. OVERPOWERED! WOOOT

Lets nerf the monk. A monk can stop damage and heal everyone else! Overpowered!

Lets Nerf the ranger! He can interupt and deal tons of dmage to everyone! IMBA!

Lets nerf GW! We should not have more than 10 Life! too strong characters!

Keeping minions isn't easy. We've got to monitor their health, use sac skills etc. Besides, minions are NOT overpowered as in order to farm with them, u need a Warrior to prevent the mobs from going after the necro and u need a monk to heal the necro while he sacrifices in mid fight.

As for pvp. it has been mentioned before, bring EoE and bb minions

OMG NERF GUILD WARS THERE ARE TOO MANY POSSIBILITIES!! :P

d4nowar · Nov 12, 2005, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by Sharpe_116

NO MORE NERFING, put the game back to the way it was long ago, Back when we could solo, back when Eles mattered, back when an ecto was 10k, not 8, 9, 16k! MAKE IT ALL NORMAL AGAIN. if a-net continues nerfing, allot of their fans will be gone. Because almost everyone in the game made money from farming (thats gone) and almost everyone has an ele (also destroyed). WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO US, STOP THE NERFING, PUT THE OVERSIZED NERF BAT DOWN, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Whats this? Do I hear a call for the good old days?

Take this for example:

Say you find the best freaking soup in the world. You love it. Everyone loves it. At the time, you can't see yourself eating anything but that soup for the rest of your life.

But just try to imagine eating the same soup for all of eternity. How boring would that be?

None of us support every single change that A.net has made to the game, but I sure support the reason behind it. It encourages change, making me play in different ways than before instead of just playing the same exact things over and over and over again. If I wanted the same things I'd play an old game that isn't supported by its company anymore.

As long as Guild Wars still gets changes, the entire community will just have to change with it.

Y.T. · Nov 12, 2005, 06:54 AM // 06:54

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Originally Posted by Overnite

Because I'm tired of seeing necro idiots only spamming fiends, with an occasional well of power. If Anet wants the game "balanced" then they should also look into minion master farming.

aha thats closer to ur point - u see necro only as energy battery, but guess what - there are diff necros

if u want battery in ur team - pls specify it while inviting, and BTW - death necro - minion master - cant cast well of power, 'cos its blood magic spell...

so - basically - u want death builds nerfed just to have more battery around? after ur AOE was nerfed? hilarious

Jigs · Nov 12, 2005, 07:54 AM // 07:54

please, no more nerfing. everytime a good build is discovered, jealous people want's to nerf it because they think it overpowers them. Mass minions was used before and not only for farming. necro players also do minion massing in missions but no one complained. Now that Minion masters are a big hit in farming greens someone complains. What is next to be nerfed? warriors, lower their health or armor. I have a good build for my warrior, i think it is almost invincible and if someone will think it is overpowered,and will be nerfred, i will be pissed off. I work on that build, i mixed different skills that's how you build a incredible build for your character.

BTW Minion master is still not overpowered. they can be killed in just a few hits. without their minions/fiends, almost no one will want them on farming groups

_necroangel_ · Nov 12, 2005, 08:01 AM // 08:01

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Originally Posted by Y.T.

aha thats closer to ur point - u see necro only as energy battery, but guess what - there are diff necros

if u want battery in ur team - pls specify it while inviting, and BTW - death necro - minion master - cant cast well of power, 'cos its blood magic spell...

so - basically - u want death builds nerfed just to have more battery around? after ur AOE was nerfed? hilarious

Couldn't have said it better myself...Rofl

Vermilion Okeanos · Nov 12, 2005, 08:29 AM // 08:29

I can't believe no one has mention about nerfing human...

human- the supreme life form on earth. So overpowered... NERF

However, from the looks of it; human seem to be nerfed already, some that is.

_necroangel_ · Nov 12, 2005, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Hahah..Noes..humans aready came equipped with that "lack thereof" quality D:

Fireaznboy · Nov 12, 2005, 08:58 AM // 08:58

stop whining kthx?

_necroangel_ · Nov 12, 2005, 09:01 AM // 09:01

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Originally Posted by Fireaznboy

stop whining kthx?

my thoughts exactly

Deadlyjunk · Nov 12, 2005, 09:24 AM // 09:24

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Originally Posted by jimmy_logic

I would imagine solo Minion Master would be quite difficult... :P

Imagine the bug reports ANeT would get:

"OMFG, I can't kill myself with BiP if I'm alone!"
or
"OMFG, I can't animate a minion from my own corpse!"

But seriously speaking, I disagree wholeheartedly with the guy that launched this. This is for two reasons:
1) What do you care that other people can earn money? If they have a good build to farm with, maybe you should allow them the pleasure of using it?
2) I think the point of this forum is to post constructive ideas. Not just go on a rant against some part of the game you don't like.

_necroangel_ · Nov 12, 2005, 10:44 AM // 10:44

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Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk

But seriously speaking, I disagree wholeheartedly with the guy that launched this. This is for two reasons:
1) What do you care that other people can earn money? If they have a good build to farm with, maybe you should allow them the pleasure of using it?
2) I think the point of this forum is to post constructive ideas. Not just go on a rant against some part of the game you don't like.

I don't know...think it could be jealousy?

fullmental · Nov 12, 2005, 11:06 AM // 11:06

minions are you friends they fight for you give you energy when they die and give you a reserve of health..taste of death